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Rihanna.com Offered for Sale on DNForum; UDRP Filed Months Later

RihannaThe domain name Rihanna.com was offered for sale on DNForum back in June of 2009.   According to the updated thread, the domain name was later sold for an undisclosed amount of money. As you are probably aware, Rihanna happens to be the name of a popular musician, whose full name is Robyn Rihanna Fenty.

While looking through recent UDRP filings at the National Arbitration Forum, I noticed that there was a UDRP filed for Rihanna.com. At the moment, there is a Network Solutions coming soon page on Rihanna.com, and there’s nothing on the landing page that mentions the musician, who currently holds the #11 spot on the Billboard 100.

The moral of this post is that if you have a domain name that could potentially be seen as infringing on another company’s trademark (which can happen even with the most generic of names), you need to be cautious where you list it for sale and what you say when you list it. Assuming it was the singer’s legal team that filed the UDRP, I am sure this line didn’t help the owner, “Rihanna.com Correct Spelling!”

Soon enough will will know if the complainant saw the sale on DNForum, elsewhere, or if they targeted it without having seen whether or not it was for sale, but it’s something to keep in mind when you are selling a domain name.

There have been other cases where the complainant cited a for sale listing on a domain forum as part of its complaint. Some of these cases include RymanAuditorium.com, EliteModels.com, WWF.com, and AirDeccan.com

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How Do You Define Domain Investing?

question markThis   seems like an easy enough question to handle on a Wednesday afternoon: What is domain investing? When I think about that question, the answer doesn’t appear to be as clear cut as it would seem.

At first glance I think most people would probably say that domain investing is something along the lines of “making money from domain names,” but if that’s the case, there would be millions of people who fall into this category, since domain names are important to most websites. I think the definition has evolved in the last few years, but I want to know what you think it is today.

I will chime in a little later to add my input, but for now, I am interested in seeing how you define domain investing.

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There Are Many Ways to Become a Successful Domain Investor

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Picture 1Believe it or not, DomainGang.com was right in its recap article on Monday. In separate posts, Brian discussed how domain investors should find end users for their domain sales, and I said that domain investors should continue selling to other domain investors. The reality is that both recommendations can work for different people, but most people do a little of both rather than one extreme or the other.

As the old cliche tells you, there are many ways to skin a cat.

People come into the domain industry with a variety of backgrounds, careers, financial situations, and family situations, and each has his or her own needs to be successful.

Some people own the best possible .com domain names, and if they make one sale per year, they earn more than 99% of the rest of us. They can wait for an end user to approach them, and they won’t regret turning down a 7 figure offer because they don’t need the money and know it’s worth more.

Some are domain investors purely as a hobby, and if they earn more than they spend, the year is a success for them. They can email potential end user buyers and/or wait for end users to approach them. If they sell and make a good profit, that’s great. If they don’t sell, they can pay the $8 renewal fee each year and wait until an offer comes their way. As long as they are in the black at year end after paying renewal fees, all is well.

Some are full time domain deal makers. Many constantly buy and sell domain names and need to make quick (or big) sales to stay liquid. They churn and burn through domain names and use the money to buy other names and to grow their business. They try to hit home runs with their sales, but are happy to make a good profit on a quick sale, while moving on to the next transaction.

Some people own strong portfolios (generics or TM names with traffic) and make a living with PPC and affiliate revenue. They sell when they receive an offer that’s great, but they don’t necessarily look to sell. They are earning enough with their domain names as is, and they don’t look for   buyers because buyers find them. They can be selective when they sell.

Many people own domain names that they develop and build out. They aren’t necessarily looking to sell their websites, but if the right offer comes around, they will consider it. Some of these people seek out potential end user buyers and others are content waiting until the right deal comes around.

Most domain investors I know use a combination of strategies to generate revenue. They sell to end users when they receive a good offer, they email potential end users (mindful of UDRP/legal issues), they sell to domain investors in private and on forums, or they hardly ever sell and generate revenue from their domain names.

No matter what type of domain investor you are, if your strategy works and you enjoy what you do, nobody can tell you that your method is wrong. One of the amusing things I find is when someone will try to argue that another guy has it all wrong, when the other guy makes a lot of money year after year. The domain business is like any other business: there are many ways to be successful, but the ultimate bottom line is your bottom line.

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Facebook Scam Hits Domain Investor

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FacebookI know this is a fairly well-documented scam, but I understand it’s impacted a member of the domain community, so I wanted to share it with you. The premise is that a hacker gains access to a person’s Facebook account and sends instant messages to that person’s friends asking for money.

While the premise behind the scam changes, it’s most often related to being stuck in a situation without money or access to funds. In many cases, the scammer claims that he was robbed at gun point, and all credit cards, cash, and mobile devices were taken. The scammer claims to immediately need cash via Western Union or some other difficult to track money transfer.

One reason I point this out is because many people who are connected on Facebook aren’t actually closely related in real life and may not know the person (and their diction) very well. In addition, they may not know where their “friends” travel and how often, so the scam may not seem unrealistic at first glance.

Keep your passwords secure, make sure they are different for different websites, and if someone reaches out to you, be sure to email or call the person making the request. Chances are good that it’s a scammer whose gained access to someone’s account without that person’s knowledge.

Using Google Auto Fill Menu to Mine Domain Names

Picture 1Before acquiring or hand registering a domain name, I usually do some research on the term in Google. I want to see how many results there are, how many advertisers there are, and whether companies use the term in domain names associated with the product.

When doing my search, I have the Google auto-fill menu enabled, and Google provides a useful list of related searches as I am typing. I sometimes use the results that show up in order to get domain registration ideas. For example, when typing in USB, I get the following options: USB Hub, USB Flash Drive, USB Cable, USB Wireless Adaptor…etc.

Oftentimes, the results are peripheral products that I didn’t knew existed, and sometimes the .com domain of the phrase/term is available to register. When Google first started using the auto fill feature, I had it turned off. However, I’ve since turned it back on and used it to mine domain names.

Stop Looking for End Users & Sell to Other Domain Investors

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Stop!Brian from TeenDomainer.com has a post today that brought up some good points about selling domain names to end users rather than to other domain investors. He is right in some respects, but that isn’t the full picture. My primary clients are and always have been other domain investors, and it makes sense for my business.

If I buy a domain name for $10,000, my goal is obviously to sell it for more than $10,000. I can either try to hit a home run and sell it to an end user for much more, or I can settle for a single and sell it much more quickly but at a lower profit margin. While many people like to hit home runs and make huge sales, it can be more lucrative over the long run to make more domain investor to domain investor sales.

If I sell the domain name to an end user for $20,000, that’s a great 100% profit, but it could take months to move it. However, if I sell it to another domain investor for $12,500 within a week, I now have a profit in my pocket and the ability to buy an even better domain name with that base amount.

Yes – selling to end users can be much more profitable. However, you need to consider your time finding the end user and closing the sale into that equation. I generally find it less appealing to sell to end users as a result. My question for Brian is, how many end user sales have you made, and has it been worth your time? This isn’t a knock, but I have been down that road and generally find that end user sales take up much more time and have a far greater rejection rate.

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