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Taking Valuate.com for a Test Drive

When I visited Domaining.com yesterday, I saw the headline announcing the launch of Valuate.com, a sister website of Domaining.com and a domain valuation tool that is run using Estibot 2.0. Users are allowed to look up 50 domain names if they aren’t registered users of Domaining.com and 200 if they are logged in to their Domaining.com account. This is the Beta version of the site, with the full launch expected to come in December.

One of the easiest ways to do a comparison of domain values is to compare recent domain sales from DN Journal with the results from Valuate.com. Since a domain name’s actual value is derived from what someone would pay for a domain name, one can infer that the recent sales price is close to its valuation. I wanted to take the new site for a test drive to see the results, and I figured using recent sales would be the most fair way to compare.

Below are some recent sales along with their prices and the Valuate.com valuation. I also added a few of my domain names to see how they are valued.

Domain Name | Sales Price | Valuate.com Valuation
Resumes.com | $400,000 | $910,000
Candy.com | $3,000,000 | $3,080,000
Bubbler.com | $10,000 | $10,000
Exterminator.com | $600,000 | $620,000
Ticket.com | $1,535,000 | $2,600,000
Luck.com | $675,000 | $690,000
Voodoo.com | $300,000 | $320,000
Jets.com | $375,000 | $620,000
Christian.com | $600,000 | $1,300,000
ChinaTours.com | $200,000 | $210,000
800.com | $250,000 | $260,000
Physicians.com | $250,000 | $700,000
DiamondRings.com | $228,420 | $1,970,000
Brazil.com | $500,000 | $630,000
FreeQuotes.com | $210,000 | $220,000
Snowboards.net | $30,000 | $31,000
Science.org | $20,000 | $29,000
LMK.com | $58,500 | $60,000

Some of my companies’ investments:
Torah.com | N/A | $110,000
Burbank.com | N/A | $160,000
Dreidel.com | N/A | $25,000
AthensVacations.com | N/A | $15,000
DubrovnikVacations.com | N/A | $1,000
CabCompanies.com | N/A | $2,200
CatOwner.com | N/A | $1,200
Oenophiles.com | N/A | $4,100
TropicalBirds.com | N/A | $2,800

Overall, some of the values seem to be fairly on point, although I wouldn’t sell a few of them at close to the valuation (TropicalBirds.com for example).   My domain names were private acquisitions (except for Lowell.com), so there probably isn’t an element of human intervention with these values.

One thing I disagree with is the disclaimer, “We DON’T valuate businesses, we DON’T valuate sites.” Although it may not provide valuation on websites, the value takes traffic and incoming links into consideration. By default, developed sites have more of these valuable attributes, which could cause the value to increase. One could argue that the domain name ElliotsBlog.com is worth a few hundred dollars to someone else named Elliot who wants a blog. However, Valuate.com gives ElliotsBlog.com a valuation of $9,200, presumably because of the traffic and site ranking.

One way to really test its accuracy will be to rate the values of pending domain auction names before and after. This will let you see how accurate the system is – and it will also tell you if there are human filters correcting errors.

Here are some Valuate.com valuations of domain names that are up for auction this week during the Traffic show:

40.com – $62,000
900.com – $12,000
Arbitration.com – $250,000
Bands.com – $520,000
Boy.com – $620,000
CigarBars.com – $6,200
DataCenters.com – $27,000
EuropeanVacation.com – $35,000
GolfClubs.com – $410,000
Hookahs.com – $15,000
Marketers.com – $2,000
OfficeSupply.com – $110,000
Penpals.com – $22,000
QB.com – $15,000
ScubaDiver.com – $9,700
SecondMortgage.com – $140,000
SkyDiver.com – $4,100
TreasuryBonds.com – $40,000
WineCellar.com – $56,000
Zimbabwe.com – $410,000

Clearly, some of these valuations are way off. I’m no baller, but I would buy Hookahs.com, Marketers.com, QB.com, 900.com, ScubaDiver.com, SkyDiver.com, and WineCellar.com at those prices right now without even thinking about it twice.

A while back, I discussed Estibot and how I don’t think you can ever rely on the results of an automated website to get accurate domain valuations. I still agree with this, but I think Valuate.com can provide an additional sanity check when buying a domain name.

Francois recently put Domaining.com up for sale with an asking price of $3,000,000. Valuate.com only pegs the value at $110,000. As we all know, the only real way to value a domain name is by offering it for sale and seeing what someone will pay for it!

ItWasTheBestNightEver.com – How I Met Your Mother

The writers for CBS’ How I Met Your Mother did it again. On tonight’s episode, one of the characters mentioned a website that was created by another character about a fun night they had, which they dubbed “It was the best night ever.” The domain name they used was ItWasTheBestNightEver.com, and as they did before, they set up a mini-site with a funny viral video (embedded below) about the “best night ever” 🙂

Last season, CanadianSexActs.org was one of the funny urls a character mentioned, and according to a couple of analytics companies, the website received a considerable amount of traffic, and it still receives residual traffic. They’ve also done this several times in the past. Unlike television shows that have phone numbers mentioned that have to use 555-1234 or something similar, the show is using story lines from the show and expounding on them online.

IMO, these are great viral sites and help promote this award winning comedy show.

Some Thoughts on the Weekend

My wife and I went on a quick vacation for the weekend for a wedding, and as always, it’s great to get away for a few days. I wanted to share some thoughts that I had while away.

I know a lot of professional domain investors don’t particularly like using Estibot for appraisals, and they are amused when a seller lists the Estibot value in a domain sales thread. However, one way to use Estibot’s very favorable values is when someone inquires to buy a domain name from you. Since the values seem more “end user-ish,” why not cite that valuation in your reply as a starting point for negotiations? Of course, you need to make sure the value is in line with your asking price.

I still don’t understand why a company like Ebay or Microsoft would want to buy a gTLD for its brand. It would seem that the   application fee as well as ongoing management costs (either internal or outsourced) wouldn’t justify the price when the .com domain name can seemingly do the same thing. Really, what’s the difference beetween something like cars.ebay versus cars.ebay.com when there are so many more costs associated with gTLDs?

I do happen to think gTLD domain names will be a game changer for our industry. I don’t really know many domain investors that are “fighting” gTLDs per se (although there are plenty that don’t really want them), but it will be important for all of us to embrace them upon introduction to hedge our .com bets, in the event that consumers quickly adopt them in market. Whatever happens, it’s going to be fun watching and participating when they are introduced and publicly available.

It’s fun to know so many city .com domain name owners when we go away and meet people that live all over the country. I met/saw people from Portland, Denver, San Francisco, Los Angeles, Nashville, Philadelphia, and a few other cities, and I always have the urge to say, “my buddy owns that city .com” but my wife doesn’t exactly like it when I do that 🙂

When I have the chance to do new things and try new activities, it helps stimulate ideas for domain names (new registrations and aftermarket acquisitions). I spent yesterday morning on a boat and was able to do some wakeboarding, so I now have some new ideas for domain inquiries.

Political Side of ccTLD Domain Investing

AE DomainsThis isn’t a political blog, and I hate politics anyway, so I don’t have any additional commentary to provide on this topic, but I thought this notice was interesting:

“Due to the governing law of the UAE: Israeli entities and individuals are not eligible for .ae domain names.”

Aside from countries that require the registrant to live in the particular country of the ccTLD, are there any other domain registration restrictions like the one above?

What Tools & Products Do You Need?

Domain ToolsI use a variety of handy tools every day to help make smarter domain acquisition, sales, and development decisions. Many of these tools weren’t created specifically for domain investors, but they work very well for our needs. Some of the tools I use just about every day include Whois History, website archive, keyword tools, reverse IP search, Alexa, and Compete.

Every so often, I wish that a specific tool or product was created and/or was more accessible or better publicized. For instance, wish there was an intuitive tool where I could type in a keyword phrase, and the tool would spit out associated domain names, Whois results, and let me know if the domain name is a developed website. This would save time and generate domain acquisition targets more easily.

On the product-side, I wish there was much more intuitive and easy to use web development software. I would love a program where I could just drag different elements into place, and it would code everything for me. I wouldn’t want something that created websites that look like they’re from the 1990s – I am talking real deal development that looks great and allows me to create cool things.

I know there are thousands of people working to build tools and products that will help web developers and many who are looking to create something that is helpful to domain investors. I am sure a few of them read domain blogs such as this to see what people want and need – and would pay for if they knew the product existed.

So I ask you, what tools or products would help you become a better web developer or domain investor?

Photo Source: http://www.flickr.com/photos/jannem/ / CC BY-NC-SA 2.0

How Did You Become a Domain Investor?

I want to change things up a little bit today. Instead of writing a blog post right now, I want you to share something with me and the other people who read my blog. I’d like you to share your story about how you became a domain investor.

There are a number of public figures in our industry, many of whom have interesting stories about how they became domain investors and were the first pioneers of a relatively new industry. However, there are many interesting stories that haven’t really been shared yet, and I’d love to hear about them.

I am interested in learning how you came across the industry and what made you interested in domain investments. I am looking forward to seeing your replies… please don’t be shy!

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