Buying Domain Names

Using Vurr to Find Keyword Domain Names

I found a tool that I’ve been using to harvest unregistered domain names and I wanted to share this with you. Vurr is a tool that is similar to what Overture was, but it relies on a static set of data. From the Vurr website:

“This is a free alternative to Overture and equivalent tools. Search data is from 48.6 million searches by 657,426 distinct users and comprises 97 million keywords. Data was collected by AOL on a random sample of US users from March 1, 2006 through May 31, 2006. In the interest of privacy, search information is only available in aggregate and numeric queries dropped.”

Because the data isn’t exactly “new” it isn’t the best tool to search for trends or more currently used keywords. For example, the keyword search for “twitter” returned no results. However, I do think it’s good for long tail domain searches, especially with people dropping more names than usual due to the economy.

To find domain names, I enter specific search terms, such as “mortgage,” “refinancing,” “soccer,” “mobile” etc. I then take the results, along with the actual # of searches, and I use an Excel sheet to remove the numbers, leaving me with rows of keyword phrases. I then use the Godaddy bulk domain search tool to find the .com names that are available to register.

Once I get the results, I break up the domain name back into it’s search terms, and I search Google for the “quoted phrase” to see how many results there are, how many advertisers there are, and I get a feeling for the competitiveness of the keyword and value of the product or service.

If I think a particular domain name would have commercial value to an end user and is a term that people are looking to find, I will generally buy it. The key thing is that the phrase, as listed, is a searched term and has meaning. Even if the phrase is in a niche industry or field, if it could have commercial value, I am willing to take a chance.

Make a Good Offer

A lot of domain owners have received offers on their premium domain names. Strike that. ALL owners of premium domain names have received offers on their domain names before. It’s virtually impossible to be the first offer someone’s received if they own a great domain name. To get there attention, your email needs to stand out from everyone else’s solicitation.

As a domain buyer, your job is to make an offer that is compelling enough for them to respond. If you insult someone with a lowball offer, they will delete it. Even if you think your offer is a “good” introductory offer, step into their shoes for a minute and imagine you’ve owned that domain name for 10 years and received countless emails. How would you respond to the email? If you aren’t impressed, they won’t be either, and they probably will delete it.

If you ask the domain owner if the name is for sale without naming a price, they will probably delete it, too. They’ve owned the name for a long time for a reason, and that’s because they haven’t received a compelling enough offer to sell it.

The best way to get a conversation going with a domain owner is to make a good opening offer. At the very least, you will usually get a response, and at the best, the domain owner will accept your offer. I enjoy negotiations to a point, but I generally make a strong offer at the outset. Maybe I can go higher, but maybe I can’t. However, it’s generally good enough to get a response.

I’ve also found it helpful to include my phone number in my email correspondence. People want to know they are dealing with other real people, and if they can give you a call to talk, they will generally feel more comfortable. This has helped seal the deal on a couple of acquisitions in the last few weeks.

People are willing to sell their domain names, but you need to give them a reason. For many it’s financial, and you can’t negotiate with someone who immediately deletes your email upon opening it.

No More Easy Money

One problem I think many of us have is that we sometimes view our domain investments as a means to make a lot of money quickly. I know a number of people who got started in the industry after reading articles about people like Rick Schwartz making a lot of money with virtual assets, and they want to follow suit because it looks like a great lifestyle filled with “easy money.”

I must admit that the domain investor “lifestyle” I live is great, but it’s not exactly the stereotypical one that people probably think about. I work 12-16 hour days developing, researching, and negotiating, and I work every day. I enjoy what I do, and I set my own hours, so it’s worked out well. If I want to take a day off, I have the ability to do that. There are very few people in the industry who sit back and relax all day while drinking cocktails on the beach at night, although that stereotype does sound relaxing.

All of this said, I want to give a bit of a warning to people who may be new to the industry. Just because you see a specific type of name selling for a lot of money (and growing in value), it doesn’t mean that all similar names are worth the same amount of money. Simply because some people are investing isn’t a good enough reason for you to buy as well unless you know why the name is increasing in value and believe the rationale is correct.

Over the past year, prices in a number of verticals within our industry have dropped considerably, while premium domain names have kept their value. The reason is that many verticals (like 3 and 4 letter domain names) were perceived as being much more valuable than other domain names, and domain investors who were doing most of the buying couldn’t sustain the growth. Eventually, there were many more sellers than buyers, and the prices dropped, tremendously in some cases.

I am not going to preach and tell you what types of names are best to buy and what types of names aren’t. It really isn’t as easy as that. I will say that you should do your due diligence when you buy, and if you are looking to make fast money, you are in the industry at the wrong time. Just about everyone I know is working hard, and there is no such thing as easy money.

Seeking Prime .US Domain Names

I am looking to get my feet wet in the ccTLD marketplace. I have very limited knowledge about the space, but I am learning as much as I can. That said, I am interested in possibly acquiring some great .US domain names. I am not looking for long tail keywords but would like pricing and information about one and two word keyword .US domain names such as:

Hotels.us
CheapHotels.us
Doctors.us
Lawyers.us
Airfare.us
Baseball.us
HomeLoans.us

If you have names like these, please email me or post a comment with the names and prices. Again, I am only looking for prime .US domain names.

Work in Verticals You Know

Rick Schwartz and Chef Patrick recently posted about dropping crappy domain names. I completely agree with this, but I think the bigger problem is that many people can’t distinguish whether a domain name is decent or crappy. The great ones are obvious to most, but some people have problems where they believe a domain name is good and has value, when in fact, nearly everyone else would say it sucks.

In my opinion, there’s no way you can beat a generic term or phrase with a brandable name. Of course, you can sell a brandable .com name to a willing company for a lot of money, but chances are good that those who have done it own thousands of brandable names and need that big sale to break even or possibly make a bit of profit. Always look at the big picture, and when you do, I think you will see that generic keywords will make you a lot more money in the long run.

One way to make sure you are buying generic .com terms is to focus on verticals you know – at the very least when you are first starting out in the industry. If you are a direct marketer for example, think about all of the types of products you use (business reply envelopes and flash drives), phrases you discuss (return on investment and presentation deck), and services you use (telemarketing reps and call center monitoring). Write a bunch of these down and see if the phrases as .com domain names are registered.

For the names that aren’t taken, put those phrases into keyword tools such as Vurr, Aaron Wall’s Keyword Tool, and Google Adwords keyword tool, and see how many people are searching for those exact phrases (correct spelling and all). Depending on the tool and the phrases, results can vary. For a sanity check, compare your long tail phrase to the short tail to see what the difference is. For example, if you look up “call center monitoring” in one of the tools, cross check it with “call center” so you can compare how many people are searching for the long tail vs the better short tail. If the numbers look good, it might be worth registering.

Another piece of advice is that if English isn’t your first language, you might not want to register English .com domain names. On occasion, things get lost in translation, and even the slightest change can render a name worthless. Instead of focusing on English .com names, perhaps you will have better luck focusing on names in your primary language. ccTLDs are hot, but I am sure people also search with their language + .com, so if you want to stick with .com, that may work, too. Don’t force it though.

It’s important to focus on verticals that you know, because you may end up registering dozens, hundreds, or thousands of dollars worth of domain names that nobody will ever want to buy. A year from that point, you will be stuck deciding whether to renew those names, the fruits of your time spent a year prior, or to let them drop and take the realized loss. IMO, stay lean in these times and only register good names.

Remember, it’s my opinion that you can’t go wrong with .com. Also, remember, it’s generally better to own 1 domain name that is really worth $8,000 than to register 1,000 average domain names at a cost of $8,000. At least if you need liquidity, it will be easier to get cash by selling ONE name than by trying to sell 1,000 domain names.

What Are You Buying These Days?

As I’ve mentioned in the past, I have been buying much less and focusing on developing my websites lately. Instead of spending money externally, I am investing internally, continuing my effort to build a steady alternative revenue stream.

I am still buying great domain names at great prices in order to resell, but my investments are more cautious because I want to make sure I have enough liquid on hand to pay the bills for the next xx months – how ever long xx ends up being. As highly as I value domain names, I would rather have $20,000 sitting in the bank than a domain name I know is worth $20,000 because even those $20,000 names can’t produce $20,000 when you need to liquidate.

I am still primarily buying one and two word category defining .com domain names, because I think there will always be a market for them. Some of my friends aren’t buying anything right now as they wait out the storm, but I have other friends who are buying a variety of different type of domain names – alternative extensions, numerics, ccTLD…etc.

So… my question to you… what types of domain names are you buying these days and what’s your rationale?

Please post the types of names you are buying rather than examples, as most examples will end up in the spam folder.

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