Buying Domain Names

Strategies to Close a Domain Acquisition

On a few of my recent domain purchases, negotiations went on much longer than others have in the past. I don’t know why that’s been the case recently, but I suppose some of it might have to do with the economy and the domain owners not really wanting to part with their names but knowing that the offer is fair and they can use the cash for other things.

If you really want a domain name, your job is to convince the current owner he should sell it. Use all of the tools at your disposal to do this. Use recent sales comparisons to show why your offer is fair, let the owner know how you can and will make the transaction easy, and show the domain owner you are a serious buyer and aren’t just wasting his time.

I have found these tactics work well:

  • If you haven’t received an offer as good as mine since (199x) when you registered the domain name, why do you think you’ll get a better offer in the next 10+ years?
  • If you do get a better offer in 5 years, can it really be better than what you can do with the money from my offer in the meantime?
  • I don’t buy domain appraisals. It’s in the appraisal company’s best interest to give you a high offer. You are more likely to buy future appraisals or use their sales services if they give you a high appraisal number
  • A domain name is worth what someone will pay for it. Based on comparison sales, I think we can agree my offer is very fair.
  • I have ADD and really want to develop this domain name. If we can’t close a deal on this ASAP, I am probably going to forget all about this project and will never think about it again, so my offer is off the table.
  • If you change your mind in two weeks and decide to sell it, I will probably have purchased another domain name and have less to spend on yours.

Most of my arguments are true and the point is to either close a deal or move on to another deal. If you get into the late stages of negotiations with a domain owner, I’ve found some of these strategies to work well. If you put your cards on the table and let the owner know the offer is for a limited time, it might help close a deal.

As always, money talks and BS walks, so if you want a good domain name, you probably should make a good opening offer. Chances are good that others have tried (and obviously failed) to buy the domain name in the past.

Registering ccTLD Domains Under the Guise of Brand Protection

I won’t call this a “scam” email because I don’t think it meets the definition of scam, but I’ve received a number of similar emails and wanted to share it with you. Clearly, it looks like the objective is to get me to register a bunch of ccTLD domain names I probably would not have wanted, under the guise of brand protection.

The initial email stated:

Dear CEO,

We are the department of registration service in China. we have something need to confirm with you. We formally received an application on November 2, 2009, One company which self-styled “NOA INDUSTRIAL LTD” are applying to register “burbank” as brand name and domain names as below:
burbank.asia
burbank.com.hk
burbank.com.tw
burbank.hk
burbank.net.cn
burbank.org.cn
burbank.tw
After our initial checking, we found the brand name and these domain names being applied are as same as your company’s, so we need to get the confirmation from your company. If the aforesaid company is your business partner or your subsidiary company, please DO NOT reply us, we will approve the application automatically. If you have no any relationship with this company, please contact us within 10 workdays. If out of the deadline, we will approve the application   submitted by “NOA INDUSTRIAL LTD” unconditionally.

Best Regards,
Alan jin

After receiving this email, I replied that the “applicant” is not affiliated with my company. Their reply had a more direct sales pitch, as expected:

Dear sir,

Many thanks for your confirmation.As soon as receiving the application of “NOA INDUSTRIAL LTD”.we checked and found “burbank” is your company’s registered trademark.So we inform you also that’s reason why we sent email to you.If you did not authorized such apply we suspect 2 points:

1. This company uses your brand   to build market in Asia.
2. This company may be doing your same business, or your competitors.

But you should know that The domain names regisration is open in China. so “NOA INDUSTRIAL LTD” has right to apply for the available domain names. For this reason ” NOA INDUSTRIAL LTD” is also licit applicant and we have no right to reject them.You only own the preferential rights to register them.

In addition.please inform us your company’s decision of this issue. if these domain names are important to your company.we can send you a dispute application form and help you register them. If these are not important.we will accept “NOA INDUSTRIAL LTD’s application. Thanks for your understanding.

Best Regards,
Alan jin

The emails look official, and some companies might worry that their brand mark could be abused. Just a head’s up that I’m not buying it, and I would bet if I check in 6 months from now NOA Industrial will not own Burbank.whatever either.

Did Microsoft Buy Vaccination.com?

I was doing some domain research, and I noticed that Vaccination.com is now registered to a company known as Media Market of Boise, Idaho. As of September 24, 2009, the domain name was registered to Internet REIT, but on October 20, 2009, the domain name changed hands and is now registered to Media Market.

I don’t know anything about Media Market, but I do know they were the company who registered quite a few Bing related typo domain names just before they were acquired by Microsoft. Interestingly enough, Jamie reported that Microsoft recently acquired H1N1Symptoms.com, and the domain name resolves to the Bing results page for the search phrase “h1n1symptoms.” This is great for the owner of h1n1symptoms.us, as that website currently ranks #1 for the search term.

Prior to Microsoft’s acquisition of H1N1Symptoms.com, it was registered to TenPenny Group, a company that among other things, acquires domain names on behalf of Microsoft and other large companies.

Don’t Buy Brandable Trademark Domains!

A few days ago, I received an email from someone who is new to the domain industry who asked me for my opinion on some of his 200 domain names. He started out buying domain names in the past year, and probably has spent in the ballpark of $2,000 on his domain investments. I won’t reveal any more details about the person or his names because the details don’t really matter, but most of his names were call to action domain names involving trademarks.

In the email to me, this person mentioned Rick Schwartz’s sale of iReport.com to CNN as a reason that he registered some of the names. I replied to this person with my advice, and I think it could be beneficial to others who have similar names or have considered purchasing similar names.

“The reason Rick sold iReport.com to CNN for so much was that they had already created the brand on their site, and they needed the domain name to expand.   Rick didn’t buy ireport.com to sell it to them, or else they probably would have sued him rather than try to buy it.

As someone who worked at an ad agency for a couple of years, I can tell you that creative directors love coming up with their own ideas, and they would probably not use a slogan that someone else created.   [XYZ Company] probably has an ad agency of record and doesn’t do their own campaigns (although they approve them).

I personally stay away from all trademark related names, because they can be much more trouble than they’re worth. Some people justify buying those that make money with parking pages by making a business decision (revenue outweighs risk). That’s not my game, and I highly doubt any company will pay for a name using their TM if it doesn’t mean anything to them.

In my opinion, newly registered domain names that contain the name of a popular or well known brand are not of value and can be very risky and have little to no reward whatsoever. Many companies protect their brand names fiercely, and it’s not very likely that a company will buy worthless domain names from a cybersquatter.

While lawsuits involving trademark domain names are more rare than UDRP filings, I would say the likelihood of selling a blatant trademark name that you just registered is probably just as likely as a lawsuit.

Guest Post: Why IDNs Should Matter to Domain Investors

Gold Mining

My wife and I had dinner the other night with Aaron Krawitz and his wife, Emily. Aaron and I met at a New York domain investor get together, and not only are we both domain investors, but our wives are in the same year of graduate school working on a similar degree. Aaron is an Ivy-League graduate and currently works at a prestigious New York firm.

While our wives talked about internships and the field of Psychology, Aaron and I talked about domain names and investing. Aaron has significant IDN domain name investments, and I know next to nothing about them. I asked Aaron if he would write a guest post about IDNs so I can share with my readers why he and others are so passionate about them. Aaron and his business partner, Gary Males, wrote the following. Hope you enjoy.

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Any domainer worth his salt knows the history of the pioneers in the domain industry and how in the 90’s they took a risk on buying generic domain names.   Back in the pre-Google days, there was no business model, no parking, no affiliates, no monetization – you have to admire these innovators as they took a calculated risk and have been rewarded.

How many domainers have found themselves wishing they could have done that or that they could go back in time to the 90’s?   IDNs are exactly that opportunity.

There are 100+ million domains registered today; and the majority of these are in English.   There are only 1 million IDNs registered, and that is across ~200 different languages.   Do the math – that means there is tremendous opportunity.

It’s like a 1990’s Groundhog Day, but with the benefit of knowing you can monetize domains and there is end-user demand for virtual real estate.

So what are Internationalized Domain Names (IDNs)?

They are domains that contain at least one letter not found on a traditional English keyboard.

IDNs really make a difference in countries with languages that do not use letters based on the English language; countries like Japan, China and Korea whose languages consists of symbols.   In contrast, in Spanish, French or Portuguese, it is easy to avoid IDNs and to simply substitute unaccented letters.

In these countries where the language differs so much from English, and also coupled with a nationalistic population, you can begin to see why users would use their native language over English, which is where the IDN advantage is.

As you start to take a closer look at other languages, you begin to see some unique properties that spell another opportunity.   Take for example the Japanese or Chinese language – there is no such thing as plurals, so every Japanese or Chinese term doubles up as both the single and plural version.   In other words, 2 for the price of one.   Also some Japanese words mean the same thing in Chinese, so from a domainers perspective your one domain registration now, not only means the single and plural, but it can also reach the combined population of China and Japan (1.5 billion) people – that’s 5 times more than the U.S.

Japan as an example has a very vibrant ecommerce industry, but to date, had no real use for English domain names they cannot read or remember; so what do they do, they don’t advertise the domain name, they advertise by displaying an image of someone searching in the search engine with a Japanese word, and then just buy the Adwords for that Japanese word to try and capture the searcher.   Sounds a little strange to us, when we are so used to seeing domain names in every walk of life – but that’s how it has evolved.   Domain names and IDNs definitely have a branding advantage over search box advertising.

Early domain pioneers took risks in the 1990’s not knowing what the future would look like; so what are the risks for IDN investors?

The single biggest risk, all surrounds IDN.IDN – in other words, today IDNs can be registered in .com .net .org .info .cn .jp etc – but the real benefit of IDNs is in full IDN, that is, the extension in foreign language too.

ICANN has been struggling with this for years, and will soon be inserting the first IDN extension in the root.

Dot com IDNs will remain valuable in most language as the dot com is a recognizable brand easily typed on foreign keyboards. Switching from a foreign language to English to type the “.com” is second nature, just as you or I shift characters to capitalize while typing a sentence.   In countries such as Japan, dot com is many times more popular than their ccTLD, and there are many examples of companies branding on an IDN.com.

If you still believe that an IDN extension is the holy grail to IDNs, then you can take comfort in a white paper released by Verisign that states that they intend to make available transliterated IDN versions of “com” and “net”, and alias them to the non-IDN version. This is the ideal solution after all, it provides full IDNs but leverages the brand of “com” etc that everyone is so accustomed to.

With hindsight, we all know what we should have done 15 years ago, but most of us didn’t do anything…so given what is most likely the 2nd and last domain gold rush opportunity, this time with IDNs…what will you do?   There is a risk, some say minimal, some say calculated, but the size of the prize should be enormous; this we know from the current high traffic levels on IDNs.

Another reason why people tend to shy away from IDNs is because investing in foreign markets can be accompanied by a steep learning curve, especially if you do not speak the language. With this in mind, we have launched the first 2 dedicated IDN services:

IDNnewsletter.com – A subscription based, hand picked list of our members’ top IDNs for sale, and all of the IDNs listed will have been certified by a native speaker.

IDNtools.com – a set of IDN measurement tools, drop lists and translations.

This guest post was written by Gary Males and Aaron Krawitz, co-owners of IDNTools.com and IDNNewsletter.com.   You can also follow Gary and Aaron at IDNDemystified.com and at IDNBlog.com.

DomainBrokers.com – Selling Great Domain Names

During my daily Whois lookups, I frequently see domain names registered at NameView, using a privacy guard. On many of these domain names, there is a note in the Whois listing indicating that the name might be for sale – or is at least potentially available to acquire. The message says, Domainbrokers.com is  authorized  by  the  domain  owner  to  facilitate  the  sale  of  this  domain.”

Until today, I always passed on these domain names figuring the acquisition cost would be too great for me, however, I figured I would take a shot and inquire about a domain name I was interested in buying. In order to make an offer for one of the domain names, you need to sign up for an account, providing name, company name, and contact information. I am sure this is to deter tire kickers and others who aren’t serious about buying a domain name. It also gives the domain owner the opportunity to learn a bit about potential buyers.

Today, I decided I would sign up for an account and found that this registration process was simple and fairly quick. I was then able to search for domain names using keywords of interest, and I would be able to make offers on domain names I was interested in buying. On certain domain names, they have an error message that shows up if the offer doesn’t meet their minimum valuation. The domain names certainly aren’t cheap, but these are great domain names and DomainBrokers.com makes it easy for a potential buyer to put his best offer in front of the owner.

I found that when I searched for domain names that ended with certain keywords, there would always be no results, so I assume there is some sort of programming error there. I found it pretty simple to search, although I think it would be great if I could do advanced searches for keywords + keyword exclusions…etc. With all the domain names that they are brokering, I think an advanced search function could help make it easier to acquire names. However, the domain names aren’t really priced to sell quickly.

If you haven’t checked out DomainBrokers.com yet, you might consider doing it. Just realize that you aren’t going to find domain names that are underpriced.

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