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Pros and Cons of Selling New Registrations Cheaply to End User Buyers

Over the past couple of weeks, I’ve written about a few of my recent end user sales on new registrations that were for less than $1,000 each. A couple of people have made comments and sent emails asking about whether these lower value sales are worth the time and effort when it can take a similar amount of time and effort to sell a much higher value domain name at a significantly higher profit. These comments are worth addressing because they are valid concerns.

One of the primary reasons I became fascinated by the domain investment business was because I could virtually create something from nothing, pay around $10, and sell the name to someone else for a nice profit. Much like some people go on vacations where they can dig for gold, hunt for gems, or search for other objects of value at a minimal cost, domain investing at this basic level is exciting to me.

Don’t get me wrong, my company wouldn’t be around if it wasn’t for the high dollar sales, but I enjoy creating names after doing research and then flipping them for a large profit.

Below are a few pros and cons to consider regarding selling new registrations to end users:

PRO: When buying newly registered domain names, there is far less risk than paying $5,000, $10,000 or $50,000 for a domain name in the after market. If it sells for anything over $10, I will make a profit (not considering the cost of my time to research, contact, negotiate, and transact).

CON: If a newly registered domain name sells for $1,000, there’s a huge profit margin, but the actual realized profit would not be enough t sustain my business unless there was a significant number of these sales each month.

PRO: There is very little carrying cost to domain names that don’t sell. If I buy a $10 name and email 30 companies who don’t express an interest, the cost to maintain the domain name is just $10 a year, and I can later decide whether it’s worth keeping.

CON: Although I don’t usually (well, ever) purchase dozens or hundreds of domain names at a time, I know there are plenty of people who do.   Despite the fact that a domain name can cost $10 to register, if you own dozens, hundreds, or thousands of these new domain names that generate no parking revenue, the carrying cost on virtually worthless domain names can be considerable.

PRO: It’s fairly easy to find decent unregistered domain names that would be coveted by companies in those specific markets.

CON: It can be very easy to go overboard, purchase thousands of dollars in domain names that don’t receive any interest from potential buyers, and those thousands of dollars could have been spent on one very good domain name.

PRO: Making the decision to buy a $1,000 domain name can be easy for some end users and not require approval from higher levels at a company because the cost is relatively low. This generally makes transactions go quickly.

CON: Some companies may not like the idea of enriching you when you literally just spent $10 to buy the domain name and turned around and asked for $1,000.

PRO: Deals under $1,000 can be done very easily (and quickly) using Paypal, and the cost of escrow is relatively cheap.

CON: New registrations can’t be transferred to a different domain registrar within the first 60 days of registration, which could pose a problem for a buyer.

Ultimately, I think it might be wise for domain investors to try to buy interesting domain names for end user sales slowly and pitch the names to potential buyers. If you find that you aren’t having luck, perhaps hiring a domain consultant (NOT me) might be beneficial. It’s a good idea to hone your domain research, sales, and negotiation skills on lower value domain names before moving up and making more expensive investments.

Selling newly registered domain names is a small aspect of my business, but it’s been enjoyable for me so I am thinking about doing it more frequently as time permits.

FreshDrop: Communicating With Its Customers

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Fresh DropI noticed something on FreshDrop.net that I can’t recall seeing as prominently in the past on another website I visit. There’s a box in the lower right hand corner of my browser that “What could we change to make you want to continue using us?” and it has a box for customers to provide comments and feedback.

Staying in touch with customers’ needs and suggestions is one of the smartest things a company can do, and it’s even more important for an Internet-based company to reach out, especially when the company doesn’t have sales representatives that deal directly with its customers. There have been plenty of websites I’ve used that don’t have exactly what I need, and if I can find it elsewhere, I just don’t return.

FreshDrop.net is a website I use frequently, and I offered a suggestion to them about adding a newsletter option. It would be great if I could receive an email with the upcoming dropping domain names that I have based on specific filters I set up.   If you have any comments or feedback for the FreshDrop.net team, log in to your account and leave a note.

The company behind the pop-up question is KissInsights, in the event that you don’t have a FreshDrop.net account but do wish to reach out to your customers online. The pop up is a bit intrusive on the lower right, but it will probably ensure your visitors see it and take action.

Sunday Morning Updates

I am almost back home, and here are a few updates for the weekend.

  • Thanks to everyone who commented on my post the other day. I plan to select the winner at some point tomorrow afternoon and will let that person (and everyone else) know who was selected. Depending on the interest level and the time, I might do something like this in the future.
  • If you’ve sent me an email in the last week, please excuse my belated reply. It’s going to take a few days to catch up on emails. If you don’t hear back from me for some reason, please re-send your email and I will be in touch.
  • I read a couple of domain-related articles that people sent to me this past week, and it seems like there was quite a bit of interesting activity:
  • >>> Regarding “pigeon shit” domain names – I agree with Rick in some ways although I don’t entirely understand the point behind the posts. Yes, there are plenty of people who register bad domain names. I’ve registered plenty of shit domain names. I assume many people read domain blogs to learn, and I hope I can flatten the learning curve to help people buy good domain names.
  • >>> I also saw Rick’s post about the traffic/oil spill domain names, and although I won’t pass judgment on another person’s or company’s investment strategy, I will say that I don’t personally monetize tragedy-related domain names. It’s more of a personal thing for me, but it disappointing to see Rick publicly disclosing these investments. IMO, people look up to Rick for advice and knowledge and when people see the “Domain King” owns BP (trademark) names, others might follow suit thinking it’s okay, and some might be okay but others might be problematic. Of course names like these get some traffic and revenue, but in the whole scheme of things, is that $1k (maybe) in revenue worth it?
  • >>> Mike Berkens’ post about the CamRoulette.com lawsuit was interesting and had some great responses. I don’t really feel badly for the 20 year old “kid” because I’ve been in the position of losing out on a name after a price was agreed upon. I don’t wish any ill-will on him, but I hope anyone who reads about this sees that backing out of a deal (even one consummated via email) is not only unprofessional but can lead to additional legal problems.
  • >>> In that same vein, it seems that some potentially upcoming legal cases may make it more costly for a seller to back out of a deal. There’s the CamRoulette.com case, the 7 legal domain names sold on Sedo, the Women.com case, and the MobilePhones.co.uk case. If the buyers sue to get the domain name(s) and legal fees and win their cases, it could become known that’s very costly to back out of a deal. Right now, perception is that it’s simply a matter of a damaged reputation, but the reality could be that backing out of a deal is costly and not worth it.
  • I put some names for sale on DN Forum as I said I would, using a sticky thread. So far, two of the better names have sold and I will begin to reduce some of the prices and add names like RingtoneSites.com.

Don’t Stop Domaining

No matter how hard I try, I can’t seem to stop working… whether I am out to dinner or on vacation, I always seem to find myself thinking about business. It’s not necessarily bad – unless you happen to be a person with whom I am spending my “free” time.

Nevertheless, it’s not always a bad thing (I think). We’ve been staying right on Jardin du Luxembourg, and it’s a beautiful area, as you can see from the photographs in this post. We went for a run in the gardens this morning and it was magnificent.   Been rainy for a few days, but the past two have been sunny in the high 70s.

While relaxing this evening, I went to see who owns JardinDuLuxembourg.com, and the name had expired and was not owned by anyone at the time. I pinged Bari (my rep at Moniker), and as she usually does when I send a message to her, she bought it instantly on my behalf.

I may post some photos on my new domain name when I have a chance and write a little bit about the area.There are quite a few hotels, restaurants, bakeries, coffee shops, apartments…etc. It’s too bad I didn’t own it before I left… would be interesting to ask my accountant about expensing some of this trip… kidding.

Talk to you all soon… It’s time for some wine in the gardens.

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I didn’t bring my cord to upload photos, so these are courtesy of Flickr:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/xlibber/2961646533
http://www.flickr.com/photos/switchhook/3388584338
http://www.flickr.com/photos/28793002@N03/3750452968
http://www.flickr.com/photos/davearquati/3808246269/

More photos on Flickr that aren’t Creative Commons.

A Deal May Not Be Done Until the Domain Name is in Your Account

Back in February 2010, I made an offer in private for a domain name. The domain name hadn’t been on the market, and my inquiry was unsolicited. The owner’s asking price at the time was significantly higher than my offer, and he opted not to sell me the domain name because the gap was too great.

A couple of weeks ago, the owner contacted me again to ask if I had an interest in any of his other domain names, some of which were very good.   I was interested in one name, but the price was too much for me to buy it, so I asked if I could try to broker it for him to a few clients, and he agreed (although I had no luck selling it at his asking price).

Late last week the owner contacted me again to see if my initial offer was still valid for the domain name I had originally inquired about, and I said it was. I asked if I could pay using my American Express card, and he agreed to that. I assumed the deal was done since I said my offer was still good and we were finalizing the payment vehicle.

I spoke with a couple close colleagues about the name the next day, and one mentioned that he just saw it for sale through a domain broker. Apparently, when the owner contacted me to ask if my offer was still good, he also reached out to a domain broker to ask him to get a deal done.

Fortunately the broker had just sent out his email and didn’t have any clients bite at the name, so I reached out to him and explained the situation. I didn’t want the domain owner to leverage the broker’s clients and me to get a sweeter deal for the domain name.

The lesson here is that even if you think a domain deal is done, it might not be until the domain name is in your account. Of course there might be legal recourse, but that can take a significant amount of time and expense, and unless the name is of significant value, it might not be worth pursuing.

Sign Documents Online with Adobe Electronic Signature

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This probably sounds silly, but since I work from a laptop, one of my bigger annoyances is going to hook up my Macbook to a printer and scanner to print agreements, sign them, and then scan them back to my computer (yeah, I should get a wireless device for it but that’s not the point).   It’s not that big of a deal but it’s one of those stupid, little annoyances. A friend of mine introduced me to a new Adobe online service that will virtually eliminate this.

Adobe’s Electronic Signature is a free, Internet based service that allows parties to an agreement to share and sign the agreement online. Users simply upload an agreement (only pdfs are accepted), enter the email address of the other parties, post a due date for the signatures, select a signature profile, and hit submit. The user has the option of choosing a standard signature, or the user can upload an image of an actual signature to make it more authentic.

Once the user has finished his part of the agreement, the other parties are notified and receive an email to access the agreement online. The must click the link furnished by Adobe to access the agreement. Once there, they are unable to alter the agreement, and the service leaves a note on all pages to show that all parties read and acknowledge each page. The other parties then check off their electronic signatures and the agreement is executed.

It’s an easier way to get important documents signed online without having to worry about scanners and fax machines.

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