Domain Auctions: Problems & Solutions – Part 1

Most domain investors would probably agree that the results of live domain auctions have been pretty weak recently. Aside from a few strong sales that have taken place, most auctions haven’t produced the results people hoped to see. I’d like to discuss problems I see in part one and give my advice to improve live auctions going forward.

In no particular order, here are some of the reasons I believe domain auctions haven’t been successful recently.

  • Lower PPC payouts and poor economy affecting domain investors’ spending ability

For a few years, live domain auctions were dominated by some of the wealthiest domain investors. Many of these people and companies were spending money that they earned from PPC revenue. With payouts down across the board, there is less money to reinvest.

Likewise, with the economy in the tank, there is less financing available for domain buyers. People can’t refinance their homes or other property as easily, and ultimately it means less money to spend on domain names. In addition, people are more reluctant to spend money on domain investments, favoring a stronger liquid position to stay protected.

  • The same domain names continue to be offered for sale.

There are a limited amount of top quality domain names that are openly available for sale. Many domain investors don’t wish to list their names for sale in a public venue and/or don’t want to set a price for their prized assets. Domain names are on the market longer, and consequently, even good domain names are allowed to be placed in different live auctions with the hopes that someone bids. Oftentimes, these domain names don’t have lower reserves, and they just sit on the shelf like day old milk. At one time their inclusion made a splash. Now it’s just embarrassing to see the same names at the same prices being auctioned in different venues.

  • People have ridiculous sales expectations.

Let’s face it. Everyone thinks their names are hot shit. No matter how many times Monte or Rick will hammer their sellers asking for reserve price reductions, many people are reluctant to do so. Gone are the days when a bidding war will ensure a domain name sells for what it’s worth or more. People don’t want to lower their price to a point where one bid will lead to a very bad sale.

Domain owners have lost faith that buyers will show up, and they are unwilling to drop their reserve prices. Auction houses are either desperate to keep certain names in auction with the hopes of drawing some interest (while locking down exclusivity) or they are praying that the needy end user just happens to show up, with all senses lost after being hit in the head with a bag of money.

  • Long exclusivity periods.

People like myself like to sell domain names quickly. I buy as low as possible and sell as high as possible, as quickly as possible. If I have a $20,000 domain name, I can’t/won’t take a chance and lock it up for 60 days because I need to move my inventory to generate much of my income. If the name doesn’t sell, I can sell it on my own, but I am obligated to pay a 10-20% commission. Some people may opt to not honor an agreement, but that’s certainly a reputation killer if not a legal problem. With lower sales rates, it’s not a guarantee that a domain name will sell at auction and it’s more difficult to justify a long period of exclusivity.

On the other side of the business, auction houses need to lock down these domain names. They can’t afford to spend time and effort selling a domain name if the name isn’t committed to them. I know for a fact that the auction houses work hard to sell domain names before and after auctions, so it’s not fair to not commit.

  • Too many auctions and lists not revealed until just before the auction.

There are so many auctions these days that people wait until the last minute to decide where to submit their domain names. This causes domain auction houses to scramble at the last minute to find buyers. Domain buyers have very little time to review their lists. I know the first live auction happened when people simply put names up on a white board, but times have changed and more money goes into buying a domain name.

  • End user buyers aren’t showing up.

Perhaps this is due to the above issue where lists aren’t finalized until the last minute, but it doesn’t appear that end users are showing up as much as they should (has always been an issue). I know that the domain auctioneers spend time contacting potential buyers, especially when it comes to high ticket names, but as any domain investor knows, it’s tough to get end users to buy. They have to want a specific domain name at the offered price at the time that it’s auctioned.

In addition, end users may not trust domain auctioneers as much as they would trust other auction companies who are more well-known. This industry is still young, and end users may not be   familiar or comfortable bidding at a domain auction held by a company whom they’ve never heard about. The registration process (and maybe previously a fee at Traffic I think) could also be a deterrent. Further, Snapnames still doesn’t allow remote bidding from a Mac (unless it has Windows).

  • Cronyism and friendships can impact auctions

In the domain industry, there aren’t thousands of active investors. There might not even be several hundred – I really don’t know. Compared to other industries, this one is pretty small and there are a lot of people who are well acquainted with each other. Many auction participants are both buyers and sellers. Auction companies want to accommodate their best clients, and sometimes that means accepting domain names that shouldn’t be in auction – or should be priced lower.

  • Too many domain names in auctions.

There are far too many domain names accepted in the live auction, and even more in the silent auction. I know a 4 hour auction isn’t unusual in the car world, but with sales down, it seems to drag on forever. Likewise, it’s difficult for buyers to wade through thousands of silent/extended auction domain names. People don’t want to put low reserves on domain names that might get a couple of looks and maybe one bid.

  • Automatic entrance into silent/extended auction.

It seems that most domain names that are submitted to the live auction but don’t make it are relegated to the silent/extended auction. IMO, these auctions are stuffed with bad domain names, and it makes it difficult to find good ones at good prices. Truthfully, I barely even look at the extended/silent auctions, and I am sure others feel the same way. As a result, domain owners are reluctant to put low prices on domain names that might end up seen by just a few people.

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Ultimately, I think people really lack confidence in live domain auctions right now. As a result, there are lower quality domain names with higher than acceptable reserve prices. In an effort to stem the bleeding, more (lower quality) domain names are being auctioned in the hopes of a sale, and buyers and sellers are frustrated. I don’t think most of these issues are new, but they are exacerbated by other factors.

Tomorrow, I will post some of my suggestions for how to improve domain auctions, but I would like to hear what you think about the current problems with domain auctions.

Super Bowl Sunday Quickie – Go Saints!

Just a few quick bullets on this super Super Bowl Sunday:

  • I have two lengthy articles about the current state of live domain auctions that I will post beginning tomorrow. The first part dissects what I believe are problems with auctions lately, and the second part offers some suggestions to improve them. Hopefully other domain investors can contribute some valuable feedback.
  • I’ve heard from a couple people that Domain Roundtable will be happening this year, despite the fact that the DRT website still shows information about the 2009 conference. I expect to hear where and when it will be held soon, assuming those two people were correct. Once I hear, I will share with you.
  • A couple of people emailed me this week asking if I know anything about the GeoDomain Expo. As far as I know, it is still scheduled for New Orleans at the end of April (during Jazz Fest). I really hope the schedule is set ASAP because the price of flights seems to continue to increase and people need to make reservations soon.
  • If you live in the New York City area (or New Jersey), don’t forget that the Castello Brothers will be having drinks with us at the Campbell Apartment in Grand Central on Tuesday at 6pm. You can RSVP via comment or email. So far, about 25 people have confirmed.
  • I’m excited for tonight’s Super Bowl, and without a doubt, I am rooting for the New Orleans Saints. Next week’s Domainer Mardi Gras in NOLA will be even better if the Saints win and the city is celebrating.   As a Patriots fan, I generally root against the Colts, and New Orleans is one of my favorite cities, so it’s a no brainer for me.

When Using Ebay to Sell Domain Names is a Smart Move

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Ebay LogoI was once an active Ebay domain seller. This was before I knew about domain forums, and I knew relatively little about other domain sales venues such as Snapnames. I did fairly well selling inexpensive domain names on Ebay, although I haven’t done so in quite some time. I want to share one example of when using Ebay to sell domain names can be very smart.

I frequently hear about domain owners’ attempts to reach out to potential end user buyers to let them know a domain name is for sale at auction. Most of the time, the auctions are run on proprietary auction platforms managed by auction companies. In my opinion, this can be a big barrier for companies that aren’t familiar with domain auctions or the auction houses.

With tens of millions of accounts, Ebay is the most well known, and arguably most reliable online auction platform. They are trusted by buyers and sellers, and if a person hasn’t opened an account on Ebay, you can probably be sure they’ve heard of the company.

In lieu of listing a domain name for sale on a live auction, you might consider listing it on Ebay before contacting potential buyers. Buyers might trust Ebay more, and they will have more time to make a decision. I have not tried this method out yet, but I will do so and let you know how it goes.

Picks for Moniker’s DomainFest Auction

Moniker announced the inventory with reserve prices for the Domain Fest live domain auction that will take place in Santa Monica on Thursday, January 28, 2010 from 2:00 – 6:00 pm PST. Bidding can also be done online at Snapnames. Below are my top 10 domain names (along with the reserve prices) that are included in the auction. You can see the full list on the Moniker website.

  • CardCollection.com       $2501 – $5000
  • ElectricFences.com       $2501 – $5000
  • FigureSkaters.com       $2501 – $5000
  • FiveStarHotel.com       $1001-$2500
  • Paper.com       $500,001 – $750,000
  • Performances.com       $10,001 – $25,000
  • Spoilers.com       $50,001 – $100,000
  • TaxPreparers.com       $25,001 – $50,000
  • Watchmaker.com       $10,001 – $25,000
  • WoodCabinets.com       $25,001 – $50,000

I didn’t check the Whois info on the names, so I don’t know if I know the owners or not.

What are your favorites in the auction?

Rick Latona TRAFFIC Auction to Resume Saturday After Technical Difficulties

Due to technical difficulties, Rick Latona made a difficult decision this evening and has opted to move the TRAFFIC auction to Saturday morning. Throughout the early part of the auction, the Internet functionality was spotty, and online bidding was impacted. At one point, the Latonas.com team sent out an email blast with phone numbers to call in order to bid remotely.

As Rick mentioned when he halted the auction abruptly, he has an obligation to his sellers to get the best possible prices, and with Internet bidding out of order, the best chance of success for the auction would be on a different platform tomorrow morning. I am sure there will be more details to follow, and I will update this post once I have more information.

According to the auctioneers, the closed sales will be honored at their prices and the auction will resume where it left off. You can stay apprised of the situation here, and I will have more details as soon as they are received.

UPDATE:

The auction will be held at 10:00 am Pacific on Saturday morning. That’s 1:00 pm on the East Coast or 19:00 central European time. The auction will be held on Proxibid.

Top Picks for the Targeted Traffic Conference Domain Auction

Rick Latona announced the final inventory with reserve prices for the live domain auction that will take place in Las Vegas on Friday, January 22nd at 4pm. Bidding can also be done online on the newly launched Latonas.com website. Below are my top 10 domain names (along with the reserve prices) that are included in the auction. You can see the full list on Rick Latona’s blog.

  • 320 Racehorse.com 30,000 USD to 40,000 USD
  • 390 GamblingTours.com 2,000 USD to 3,000 USD
  • 480      Meetings.com      200,000 USD to 250,000 USD
  • 620      CatFood.com      50,000 USD to 75,000 USD
  • 700      MotorcycleHelmets.com      50,000 USD to 75,000 USD
  • 770      SeniorCitizens.com      75,000 USD to 100,000 USD
  • 930      LongIsland.com      250,000 USD to 300,000 USD
  • 1140      AntiqueMotorcycles.com      20,000 USD to 30,000 USD
  • 1580      Actresses.com      40,000 USD to 50,000 USD
  • 2040      USBMemoryStick.com      500 USD to 750 USD

I didn’t check the Whois info on the names, so I don’t know if I know the owners or not.

What are your favorites in the auction?