LeadRefs and Estibot Suggestion

Yesterday morning, I wrote about purging domain investor contact emails  from sales lists since they rarely end successfully, and they tend to annoy the people who receive them. I want to share a suggestion for LeadRefs, Estibot, and any other services that suggest email contacts for domain sales.

In addition to including domain names and contact email addresses on results pages, these lead generation providers should also include DNS information as well. I think this will help people find domain investors and scrub them from their lists to avoid annoying them and/or being accused of spamming.

Many domain investors own portfolios of domain names, making it easier to scrub the list when you see multiple domain names owned by a single entity, especially when the entity is familiar (Name Administration or Most Wanted Domains as examples).

However, there are many domain investors whose portfolios are not as prolific, and whose email addresses are more difficult to spot. If you can see a domain name is parked at Sedo, TrafficZ, DomainApps, Internet Traffic, Voodoo, Bodis…etc., it’s a good bet that the owner is a domain investor and likely should be avoided when trying to sell domain names to end users.

Knowing where a domain name resolves can help domain sellers remove domain investors from their email lists.

Elliot Silver
Elliot Silver
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  1. Yes, it would be a big timesaver; less domains to check out manually. Zfbot.com is already providing this information but it’s only part of the puzzle.

    Atomic Whois Explorer is also helpful for filtering out known domainer domains manually.

  2. I don’t mean to sound stupid…but I don’t understand what you mean by end user domain sales emails nor what is meant when you say “it’s a good bet that the owner is a domain investor and likely should be avoided when trying to sell domain names to end users.”

    Could you, Elliot or someone explain it?


  3. @ Patti

    When you are trying to sell a domain name for “end user prices” rather than re-seller prices, you’re most likely wasting time and goodwill emailing an end user. I get annoyed when people consistently send me crappy domain names that mean nothing to me and are asking crazy prices. After two or three emails from the same person with this silly pricing, I just completely ignore/delete the emails without reading. If this person had a name that I would want to buy in the future, I’d most likely not even see it because I was ignoring the emails.

  4. Hm. I am still as confused— What is the difference between end-user prices and re-seller prices? I don’t understand the difference it seems between what an end user is and what a re-seller is. 🙁

    I thank you again for any follow-up.

  5. If I am just trying to clear out inventory and am willing to sell to someone in the domain biz who will then re-sell it, the price would likely be less than if I was to sell it to an end user who was going to use it.

  6. @Patti,

    Endusers often (but not always in my experience) pay more for a domain than resellers.

    So you will have more change getting a decent price by selling to endusers (companies, individuals etc.) compared to selling to resellers (domainers).

  7. Eeelch, I detest the term ‘end user’ it’s so inhuman. Why don’t one use the term client? It’s believe it’s more respectful and less arrogant.

    My clients range from company owners to domain speculators.


  8. “If you can see a domain name is parked at Sedo, TrafficZ, DomainApps, Internet Traffic, Voodoo, Bodis [Fabulous] … etc”

    Goes for brokers working with premium domains as well,

    You’re getting big time commissions, it’s the very
    least you can do before sending out those emails. To wit

    Because I have a similar domain, EliteDomainBrokerage.com contacted me.

    “My client is interested in selling [Chitown.com] for $432,000.”

    (Nice markup from the $17,000 Latona sold it for in October 2010.)

    Oh, well, at least she’s working on a holiday. 🙂

    Happy 236th birthday America.

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